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Julie
1st March 2009, 12:54
http://crystal-heart.net/temp/nsffa09-banner_leaderboard.jpg

That's right! The Fanfiction Awards are coming once again! It's been quite some time since the last one was launched!

Winner List

Winner list can be found here (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showpost.php?p=247090&postcount=186)

Voting period

FINAL Voting Round ends on April 12th, midday!

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What exactly IS the NS Fanfiction Awards?

The NS Fanfiction Awards is an award show for the awesome fanfictions posted here at NS Forums.

Nomination process and voting

You will be able to nominate fanfictions and fanfiction authors through an online form. You will then be able to vote for your favourites through a poll.

The nomination process will include rounds. The first round is unlimited, meaning you can nominate as many as you'd like in as many categories you'd like. Meaning you can nominate a story in several different categories. Please note that, nominating is not the same as voting, so please only nominate a fanfic once per category. It's no point in sending in the same nomination in the same category twice.

Then the next round will limit the nominees to the top 5 or so in every category, and then the next round will be a voting for the top 1 in every category.

Example: 40 fanfictions are nominated for Best Erotica/NC17, in the next round we cut that list down to 5, then we cut it down to the top 1 (the winner).

You will have to login with your NS username and password BEFORE you are allowed to vote and nominate.

NS Forums Fanfiction Categories versus NS Fanfiction Award categories

You can enter ANY fanfiction posted here on NS Forums into ANY category in the award show, it doesn't matter if the fanfiction in question is posted in a different category here on the forums.

Who can be nominated?

Everyone who has published a fanfiction here on NS Forums and fanfictions posted here* on NS Forums. Usually previous winners can't be entered, but seeing as I don't have on record the previous winners for the Fanfiction Award show, I'm allowing everyone to enter this year, even past winners (should anyone remember the previous winners...)

*Only fanfictions posted and completed AFTER 2003 can enter. This is because a previous fanfictions award show was held around 2003 :)


Only fanfictions NOT in the graveyard section can be nominated.

Any questions?

Categories

Best Veteran Author*
Best New Author*
Best Short Story
Best WIP
Best Erotica/NC17
Best Romance
Best Humor
Best Angst
Best Adventure/Suspense
Best AU
Best Canon
Best Characterization of Lex
Best Characterization of Chloe
Best Characterization of Non-chlex SV character
Best characterization of an original character

* Authors who first posted a fanfiction BEFORE January 2008 are Veteran Authors, and authors who first posted a fanfiction AFTER January 2008 are so-called New Authors.

** WIPs will only be eligible in the WIP and characterization categories.

lexie
2nd March 2009, 17:29
This is a fantastic idea, Julie. I wasnīt around when the previous contests were organised, but I have to say itīs always nice for authors to get recognition from the fans that help close the artistic cycle.

I love the banner and the avatar, by the way.

To give more people the chance to win something, each category might include a Gold, Silver and Bronze Medal, so to speak. Itīd also be nice to intitute a Best Novel Writer on NS (in the sense of new writer), and why not a Best Veteran Writer?

MelBee1985
2nd March 2009, 18:10
I'm thrilled!!!!

If I may have a suggestion for the WIP.. I voted that they should be included, but really what I suggest is that there is an award for 'promising fic' or 'best start' or something like that.

I don't think WIP should be mixed with completed ones. Otherwise, where do you make the cut? After 5 chapters, a fic is elligible? 10? So it's just an idea, but either one category for WIP or few ones.. Like if you do, for the completed ones 'most romantic', could also do 'WIP best romantic'.. Makes sense?

Anywho.. I am excited :D

PS: Love the banner too!!

PMD
2nd March 2009, 18:28
Sorry I don't have any suggestions at the moment but I do love the banner too, Julie. : )

Julie
2nd March 2009, 19:40
To give more people the chance to win something, each category might include a Gold, Silver and Bronze Medal, so to speak. Itīd also be nice to intitute a Best Novel Writer on NS (in the sense of new writer), and why not a Best Veteran Writer?


All the winners will be able to call themselves the winner in the respective categories, but I could also add some (more) glory in the form of a free subscription :) If that was what you meant...

Best Newcomer and Best Veteran are two good suggestions :)


I'm thrilled!!!!

If I may have a suggestion for the WIP.. I voted that they should be included, but really what I suggest is that there is an award for 'promising fic' or 'best start' or something like that.

I don't think WIP should be mixed with completed ones. Otherwise, where do you make the cut? After 5 chapters, a fic is elligible? 10? So it's just an idea, but either one category for WIP or few ones.. Like if you do, for the completed ones 'most romantic', could also do 'WIP best romantic'.. Makes sense?

Anywho.. I am excited :D

PS: Love the banner too!!

We'll see what the public says about WIPs vs. Completed before we make a decision :)


Sorry I don't have any suggestions at the moment but I do love the banner too, Julie. : )

That's okay, you don't have to suggest any categories ;) Thanks for the comment on the banner :)

lexie
2nd March 2009, 20:15
All the winners will be able to call themselves the winner in the respective categories, but I could also add some (more) glory in the form of a free subscription :) If that was what you meant...

Best Newcomer and Best Veteran are two good suggestions :)


Thatīs not what I meant, but a free subscription would be definitely nice. No, what I meant was to institute at least a First and Second Prize in each category- Gold for the frontrunner and Silver for the runner-up.It doesnīt necessarily have to be a free subscription- maybe a banner, or something.:grin3:

Iīm happy you found my suggestion interesting.

My fics:


COMPLETE FICS
Second Chances (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5254)
Payback Time (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5322)
The Love of Two Men (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5400)
Hope and Happiness (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5551)
The Countdown (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5599)
Shadows from the Past (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5676)
Finding the Way Back (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?p=225004#post225004)
The Real Thing (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?p=226336#post226336)
The Christmas Gift (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?p=227540#post227540)
Addicted (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5940)
The Naked Truth (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?p=228769#post228769)
Crossing Paths (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?p=231641#post231641) and its sequel
Rebuilding (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=6491)

letia84
2nd March 2009, 20:23
I can't knock the people with WIP since I have three of them my self. ;)

MelBee1985
2nd March 2009, 20:24
lol Well My only one is a WIP!

Ok Julie ;) Like I said though, my vote needed a precision: I am for the WIP, but I don't see them in competitions directly against completed.

letia84
2nd March 2009, 20:48
lol Well My only one is a WIP!

Ok Julie ;) Like I said though, my vote needed a precision: I am for the WIP, but I don't see them in competitions directly against completed.

I agree with this. Have a complete fic award then the best WIP award.

Julie
2nd March 2009, 21:04
Thatīs not what I meant, but a free subscription would be definitely nice. No, what I meant was to institute at least a First and Second Prize in each category- Gold for the frontrunner and Silver for the runner-up.It doesnīt necessarily have to be a free subscription- maybe a banner, or something.:grin3:

Iīm happy you found my suggestion interesting.


Ahh, now I understand what you meant :D It wouldn't be a problem getting that data out. We'll see when the nomination period begins, see if there are plenty of nominees or what :)


I can't knock the people with WIP since I have three of them my self. ;)

Haha, perhaps you should dedicate some time to finish them ;)


lol Well My only one is a WIP!

Ok Julie ;) Like I said though, my vote needed a precision: I am for the WIP, but I don't see them in competitions directly against completed.

Mhm, mhm.

Ultra
2nd March 2009, 21:47
I'll leave category suggestions to others, but this is great! I love fanfiction awards! :) And Julie, the banner and avatar are gorgeous :D

I agree with what others that WIPs should be seperate to Complete fics, but I would defo like them to be included so I vote yes :)

Kit Merlot
3rd March 2009, 01:16
This is a lovely idea, and I agree with everyone else as well, Julie--the banner and avatar are just gorgeous:grin3:

westwingwolf
3rd March 2009, 01:55
I'm on board with finding the banner to be amazing, that light blue with the black is the perfect combination. I'd gladly go around wearing that banner if it were larger and I didn't look so weird doing so.

cypanache
3rd March 2009, 03:21
Oh Fanfic Awards! I love Fanfic Awards. I actually ran a set for another fandom so I've got a little experience and would be happy to help in any way I can. I've got a couple of thoughts, take them for what you will:

1) WIPs - I agree with others who have said they should be able to be nominated but in a separate category. I would also add that perhaps it should be limited to active, non-graveyard WIPs. That way you're not punishing those of us who are simply too new to the fandom to have many (if any) finished stories, but you're not putting up stuff that is long dead.

2) Nominations - Are authors going to nominate themselves? Speaking as an author, I'm personally uncomfortable with the idea of putting myself forward, and frankly wouldn't do it. I'd lean toward no self-nominating. Also, is there a way the categories will be limited down to nominees? (i.e. top five nominated fics). Will there be a cap on the number of fics one author can have in a category? Because lets be honest, can we all forsee the entire NC-17 category being comprised of Five Zannie fics?

3) Categories -- I can actually help with this. So this would be my thoughts:

Best Veteran Author
Best New Author (posting less than a year . . or two, whatever)
Best Story
Best Short Story
Best WIP
Best Erotica/NC-17
Best Romance (Non-NC-17)
Best Humor
Best Angst
Best Action/Adventure
Best A/U
Best Characterization of Lex
Best Characterization of Chloe
Best Characterization of a Non-chlex SV character
Best Original Character
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When we ran our awards, we allowed the characterization categories to be open to WIPs but none of the other story categories were.

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4) Awards Ceremony -- We actually had one in our pairing's chatroom. All the nominated authors came and quite a few general fans. It was immense amounts of fun.

5) Tagging -- We had a little icon made up that went next to all the nominees stories on the main shipper site. Just a little extra thing that was fun.

dagney
3rd March 2009, 04:52
I too love the banner and the idea of awards.

as far as categories

Recognition for graphic artist for sure.

WIP should be included.

A category for most original story line.

recognition of best stories that are of longer length and perhaps another for short stories 3-5 parts.

Category for most romantic story

Best angst
suspense/thriller

Most humorous scene or dialog

Best sex scene or sex within a story

I like the idea of recognizing some veteran writers along with new comers

perhaps an award of an author/story that best captures/represents the Chloe/Lex characters we admire the most.

Dagney

lexie
3rd March 2009, 06:39
I think cypanacheīs posting is more than worth-considering. Like her Iīm against self-nominations- being a writer myself- and think sheīs made a good point when mentioning the possibility of an author getting too many or all of the five nominations in one category. Maybe the number could be limited to two nominations per category per person. However, I wouldnīt be against having the same author nominated once for romance, once for angst and another time for NC-17, for instance.

Some of dagney/Sherryīs ideas are also interesting:


1 Recognition for graphic artist (although there arenīt that many fics with graphic art, so the choice would be somewhat limited)

2 Most original story line
3 Best suspense/thriller (cypanacheīs included Best Action/Adventure, but Suspense doesnīt necessarily involve so much action... perhaps just more mystery)
4 Most humorous scene or dialog
5 Best sex scene or sex within a story


I wonīt quote any others because both Cy and Sherry have suggested similar things using different wording.

My fics:


COMPLETE FICS
Second Chances (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5254)
Payback Time (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5322)
The Love of Two Men (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5400)
Hope and Happiness (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5551)
The Countdown (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5599)
Shadows from the Past (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5676)
Finding the Way Back (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?p=225004#post225004)
The Real Thing (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?p=226336#post226336)
The Christmas Gift (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?p=227540#post227540)
Addicted (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5940)
The Naked Truth (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?p=228769#post228769)
Crossing Paths (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?p=231641#post231641) and its sequel
Rebuilding (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=6491)

wistfulwatcher
3rd March 2009, 06:58
Ooh, this is so exciting! I've never been with a fandom long enough to vote for fics!

I wanted to add to the banner love; gorgeous, and caught my eye with the blue script. Nice choice.

I agree with:

-WIPs accepted, but in a double category (i.e. Best Romance, Best WIP Romance, etc.).
-All of Cy's categories, especially characterization
-Limit of author nominations per category (I'd suggest just one per category), but not overall awards (I second the Zannie smut prediction, otherwise)
-Dagney's plot line suggestion and humorous scene

Also, maybe something along the lines of Most Consistent? That's not the right phrasing, but something to recognize the fics that have stayed realistic and on plot, without straying or losing focus (not sure if that clarified it any better).

A Best Ending, or Most Satisfying Ending would be good, though not necessarily happy endings. Just an ending that really gave closure, and fit with the rest of the story.

And, last suggestion, a Best One-Shot, since most of these will probably get multi-chapter nominations.

Yay, award time!

lexie
3rd March 2009, 07:09
And, last suggestion, a Best One-Shot, since most of these will probably get multi-chapter nominations.


Since most, if not all, the short stories on this forum are one-shots, Iīd say theyīd be covered by Best Short Story.:grin3:

My fics:


COMPLETE FICS
Second Chances (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5254)
Payback Time (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5322)
The Love of Two Men (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5400)
Hope and Happiness (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5551)
The Countdown (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5599)
Shadows from the Past (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5676)
Finding the Way Back (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?p=225004#post225004)
The Real Thing (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?p=226336#post226336)
The Christmas Gift (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?p=227540#post227540)
Addicted (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5940)
The Naked Truth (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?p=228769#post228769)
Crossing Paths (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?p=231641#post231641) and its sequel
Rebuilding (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=6491)

wistfulwatcher
3rd March 2009, 07:37
Since most, if not all, the short stories on this forum are one-shots, Iīd say theyīd be covered by Best Short Story.:grin3:

Ha ha, good point. That'll teach me to skim.

Dannyblue
3rd March 2009, 07:50
I also love the banner. It definitely caught my eye.

As for the categories, I agree that there should be one category for all WIPs. I think that's best because you don't want too many categories. Having a separate WIP category for every category (for example, Best Angst and Best Angst WIP) instantly doubles the amount of categories.

Actually, you could have two WIP categories. One for stories actively in progress, and one for those fics that haven't been updated in a long time, and are unlikely to be finished, but you still love them.

And maybe the WIPs have to have a minimum number of chapters to be eligible.

Julie
3rd March 2009, 12:44
I'm on board with finding the banner to be amazing, that light blue with the black is the perfect combination. I'd gladly go around wearing that banner if it were larger and I didn't look so weird doing so.

Haha, perhaps we should make t-shirts with the text "I want YOU to vote, in the NS Fanfiction Awards at Naughty-Seduction.Net" - That'll be a hit :D Haha.


[...]

1) WIPs - I agree with others who have said they should be able to be nominated but in a separate category. I would also add that perhaps it should be limited to active, non-graveyard WIPs. That way you're not punishing those of us who are simply too new to the fandom to have many (if any) finished stories, but you're not putting up stuff that is long dead.

2) Nominations - Are authors going to nominate themselves? Speaking as an author, I'm personally uncomfortable with the idea of putting myself forward, and frankly wouldn't do it. I'd lean toward no self-nominating. Also, is there a way the categories will be limited down to nominees? (i.e. top five nominated fics). Will there be a cap on the number of fics one author can have in a category? Because lets be honest, can we all forsee the entire NC-17 category being comprised of Five Zannie fics?

3) Categories -- I can actually help with this. So this would be my thoughts:

[...]
--
When we ran our awards, we allowed the characterization categories to be open to WIPs but none of the other story categories were.

=====

4) Awards Ceremony -- We actually had one in our pairing's chatroom. All the nominated authors came and quite a few general fans. It was immense amounts of fun.

5) Tagging -- We had a little icon made up that went next to all the nominees stories on the main shipper site. Just a little extra thing that was fun.

Only non-graveyard stories will be allowed to enter.

Well, I can't really control who nominates who, so basically an author CAN nominate him-/herself. It's the voting process which is more fun :)

I see the number of nominations in one category problem, although, if I were to "ignore" the nominations when an author hits a number, then the people who want to nominate another story won't get their nomination in...

Categories; A lot of good stuff there, thanks! :)

5) I've made a "Vote for me" banner which authors will be able to have in their signatures if they are nominees. I'll make a bunch of graphics people can use during the fanfiction awards :)


[...]
As for the categories, I agree that there should be one category for all WIPs. I think that's best because you don't want too many categories. Having a separate WIP category for every category (for example, Best Angst and Best Angst WIP) instantly doubles the amount of categories.

Actually, you could have two WIP categories. One for stories actively in progress, and one for those fics that haven't been updated in a long time, and are unlikely to be finished, but you still love them.

And maybe the WIPs have to have a minimum number of chapters to be eligible.

Having ONE category for ALL of the WIPs would be manageable... Like "Best WIP" or something like that could work :)

Regarding number of chapters, what should be put a limit at? 3, 5, 7?

skauble
3rd March 2009, 13:15
I see the number of nominations in one category problem, although, if I were to "ignore" the nominations when an author hits a number, then the people who want to nominate another story won't get their nomination in...

I would think that if we have a category with a cap - say 5 nominations - then it would be okay to say to everyone that if an author can have one story in the category and it will be the one with the most nominations. If the cap is 10 in a category, then every author could have two. I know that means that some people's stories won't get nominated, but I think that having an author's most popular (or 2 most popular) stories in a category should be a fairly good representation for the author while still leaving room for other authors. Besides, it will give people a reason to whip up support for their nomination. lolol

And I, also, completely love the absolutely gorgeous banner. Although you've fallen even further from your goal of slackerdom. Of course, if I get something beautiful to look at every time you forget to be lazy, then I'm happy. :D

You know, I hate to admit it, but I totally voted for making people finish their fics. LMAO How huge of a hypocrite does that make me? lolol



Regarding number of chapters, what should be put a limit at? 3, 5, 7?

I would say 5, at the very least, because it shows that it's an actual, ongoing story and actually has time to have enough development for people to have invested in it emotionally.

~Sarah~

cypanache
3rd March 2009, 14:38
Adding my two cents back. Sorry for not quoting out. I read through too many comments to keep up.

1) WIP -- I agree with the one category for WIPs (max split I'd do would be NC-17 and non-NC-17, but I don't exactly think its necessary). We break it down more than that and we'll run into the situation where there might only be two fics nominated in a category. Which trust me, kind of takes both the fun and the award out of the award. I would think 5 chapters would be good. Enough to really get a feel for the story.

2) Self-nominating/Nominations in general -- Personally I'm of the opinion that the nom process can be very important because the better the mix of the nominees the more exciting the vote. Also keep in mind the whole 'its an honor' to be nominated thing. People will use the nominees as a guide to finding great fic on this site (particularly if we keep them listed after the awards). Now, I have no idea how you're planning on doing the scripting/nom process from a computer/technical standpoint, so I can't comment on feasibility. But even if you lay out in the rules -- No self-nominating, no repeat nominating (i.e. if the nominations are anonymous, I cannot come back and nominate a story and then nominate it again and again in the same category just to make sure it gets in), then an honor system happens. I think people on this board are pretty trustworthy and no author wants to win by breaking the rules.

3) More on nominations -- theres also the issue of how many fics can we nominate per category. Just one or do we get to lay out our dream slate (i.e. five if there's five slots)


I see the number of nominations in one category problem, although, if I were to "ignore" the nominations when an author hits a number, then the people who want to nominate another story won't get their nomination in...

4) Capping -- I don't think you have to start ignoring nominations when the author hits a number simply say, for example, an author can have two stories per category, Once the nomination period has closed, if that author has the top four noms in that category take the two highest nominated stories and then move on down the line to the next most highly nominated story by a different author.

5) Graphic artist -- I think this is a great idea, but if we do it it shouldn't be limited to just those pieces associated with fics. We've got some astonishingly good graphic artists on this board and we should give them some props too

6) If we combined Action/Adventure and Suspense/Thriller into a category (i.e. Action/Suspense) could that work? Then you're not getting into the issue of too many or too similar categories, but you're also recognizing those stories that rock because their plotting is too kickass for words.

7) Finish date -- Since WIPs are only going to be eligible in one or two categories, would it be possible to give the authors a dead date about a month in advance? I.e. nominations will start on date X, to be eligible in non-WIP categories story must be complete by then. It might push a few authors who are on the cusp of finishing something (myself included) to buckle down.


Also, maybe something along the lines of Most Consistent? That's not the right phrasing, but something to recognize the fics that have stayed realistic and on plot, without straying or losing focus (not sure if that clarified it any better).

My instinct with this, is that your nominated fics should be doing that anyway. We're recognizing these stories because they're good. And at least right now as I'm going through my dream slate in the back of my mind, I can't think of any that really do stray or lose focus.

So there are more of my thoughts to be used or disposed of as you will.

Also, final thing. Is there anything I can do to help?

Julie
3rd March 2009, 15:09
Thanks for all the great comments Cyp! :)

I might need some help yes, so I'll let you know :D Thanks!

somethingeasy
3rd March 2009, 16:30
I voted 'yes' on the wips. I want Skauble's, Cypanache' and TheAmazingApe's fics up at least on the nomination list. Although I could NOT pick between which of their work I like the best.... yikes, I have to pick one per category?!!

I do firmly believe that it should only be wips that are being actively worked on right now. Which means that all graveyard fics are not to be considered. That's just my personal opinion of course... feel free to disagree *ducks behind a rock*

There's nothing for 'best newcomer' here?

Or best 'completed fic by a newcomer' perhaps?

I think it's a GREAT idea to have fanfic awards. Let's get this show started :D

lexie
3rd March 2009, 17:36
There's nothing for 'best newcomer' here?

Or best 'completed fic by a newcomer' perhaps?


I think youīve skipped our first posts, somethingeasy, because we discussed and proposed that very same thing.:D


My fics:


COMPLETE FICS
Second Chances (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5254)
Payback Time (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5322)
The Love of Two Men (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5400)
Hope and Happiness (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5551)
The Countdown (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5599)
Shadows from the Past (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5676)
Finding the Way Back (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?p=225004#post225004)
The Real Thing (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?p=226336#post226336)
The Christmas Gift (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?p=227540#post227540)
Addicted (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5940)
The Naked Truth (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?p=228769#post228769)
Crossing Paths (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?p=231641#post231641) and its sequel
Rebuilding (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=6491)

somethingeasy
3rd March 2009, 20:34
I think youīve skipped our first posts, somethingeasy, because we discussed and proposed that very same thing.:D

heh... oops! I didn't even notice that there were previous pages to the one that I viewed. I am definitely not getting enough rest these days.

One thing confuses me... I thought this was going to be a fic awards session only for fics written in the past year? But what I'd read indicates that ANY fic (written and posted whenever) is eligible for nomination? I guess this means that it's not a award giving ceremony for the year, but actually 'for all time', huh? LOL!

I look forward to checking out the categories.

Did anyone suggest Best OC (original character)?

Julie
3rd March 2009, 20:52
One thing confuses me... I thought this was going to be a fic awards session only for fics written in the past year? But what I'd read indicates that ANY fic (written and posted whenever) is eligible for nomination? I guess this means that it's not a award giving ceremony for the year, but actually 'for all time', huh? LOL!

It's been a while since we last held an award show, so we're going for all :P I think the last fanfiction awards was in 2003 :P

lexie
3rd March 2009, 21:12
Did anyone suggest Best OC (original character)?

Yes, Cy suggested it as part of her list several posts ago.

A question, Julie: Does the software allow any mechanism to make sure a person doesnīt submit her/his suggestions for the nominations more than once? I suppose youīll institute this at the moment of voting, but I believe itīd be also fair for the previous step. I took part in other contests were it was done this way.

My fics:


COMPLETE FICS
Second Chances (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5254)
Payback Time (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5322)
The Love of Two Men (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5400)
Hope and Happiness (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5551)
The Countdown (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5599)
Shadows from the Past (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5676)
Finding the Way Back (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?p=225004#post225004)
The Real Thing (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?p=226336#post226336)
The Christmas Gift (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?p=227540#post227540)
Addicted (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5940)
The Naked Truth (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?p=228769#post228769)
Crossing Paths (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?p=231641#post231641) and its sequel
Rebuilding (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=6491)

Julie
3rd March 2009, 21:28
A question, Julie: Does the software allow any mechanism to make sure a person doesnīt submit her/his suggestions for the nominations more than once? I suppose youīll institute this at the moment of voting, but I believe itīd be also fair for the previous step. I took part in other contests were it was done this way.


Hmmm. Not at the moment, no. I could probably program something for it, but people could just use different computers... Besides, all nominations will have to be approved before they appear in the categories. By approved I mean to make sure it's not a graveyard fic and that it hasn't been previously nominated :)

lexie
4th March 2009, 02:24
By approved I mean to make sure it's not a graveyard fic and that it hasn't been previously nominated :)

By previously nominated you mean in past editions of the Fanfiction Awards?

My fics:


COMPLETE FICS
Second Chances (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5254)
Payback Time (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5322)
The Love of Two Men (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5400)
Hope and Happiness (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5551)
The Countdown (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5599)
Shadows from the Past (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5676)
Finding the Way Back (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?p=225004#post225004)
The Real Thing (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?p=226336#post226336)
The Christmas Gift (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?p=227540#post227540)
Addicted (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=5940)
The Naked Truth (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?p=228769#post228769)
Crossing Paths (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?p=231641#post231641) and its sequel
Rebuilding (http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/showthread.php?t=6491)

MelBee1985
4th March 2009, 06:48
Julie, may I suggest doing rounds?

I mean, there are so many fanfictions that if, let's say, 25 are being nominated, perhaps we could then vote again and reduce it at 5-6 (or the number you set up) and the real finale is between them?

Or once the nominations are made, you could have a 'jury' selecting the top 5-10, then put them here so we can vote?

Jury could be people not involved in a fic and if so, couldn't vote for theirs?

Just a thought ;)

Julie
4th March 2009, 09:24
By previously nominated you mean in past editions of the Fanfiction Awards?

No, previously in this award show. You can only be nominated in one category once.

I can't remember the past winners of the Fanfictions Awards you see...


Julie, may I suggest doing rounds?

I mean, there are so many fanfictions that if, let's say, 25 are being nominated, perhaps we could then vote again and reduce it at 5-6 (or the number you set up) and the real finale is between them?

Or once the nominations are made, you could have a 'jury' selecting the top 5-10, then put them here so we can vote?

Jury could be people not involved in a fic and if so, couldn't vote for theirs?

Just a thought ;)

That was how we rolled the last time. First an open nomination, then a vote for the top 5, and then a vote of the top 5 for the top 1.

cypanache
4th March 2009, 14:07
Okay, now I understand the concern with capping an author's nominations in a category (we did ours differently). I would say that if a single nomination is all that's needed to put the story up for contention in the first round then there should be no limit on the number of stories the author can have nominated in that round, but then perhaps once you do the voting to reduce the nominees down take the top two vote getters by that author.

When you're reducing down to five maybe you could have people do a dream slate? Rather than each person casting their vote for one, have them choose their top five, then take your top five fics from that.

I know we've been bouncing around on numbers. I'm going to put my two cents in and say I think Five nominations is good number, enough for variety and not so many that it would be daunting to try to read all the fics in a category before voting if a person hasn't read some of them. Also, I think the cap for an author to have nominees in a category should be two, if they're good enough to have so many stories make it to the top that we have to cap them in the interest of variety than that should at least be reflected in a multi-nomination.

Julie
8th March 2009, 21:08
Poll results:

View Poll Results: Include WIPs (Work In Progress fics), yes or no?

Yes! Give the WIPs some glory too! 40 64.52%
No! Make the authors finish their fics! 22 35.48%
No opinion/Don't care 0 0%

Voters: 62.

It looks like we're including the WIPs :)

ETA: I've added a new poll to the thread regarding voting.

Require login (existing NS username and password) before you can vote?

Meaning, should you have to login with your NS username and password BEFORE you are given the ability to vote? You can nominate and browse the other sections without having to log in. Why do this? To make the voting process more protected from multiple votes. I have a bare minimum security added to the script now, but if people want to, they can easily find a way around this. By adding a login requirement, it makes this way-around a little more difficult.

MelBee1985
8th March 2009, 21:11
Poll results:

View Poll Results: Include WIPs (Work In Progress fics), yes or no?

Yes! Give the WIPs some glory too! 40 64.52%
No! Make the authors finish their fics! 22 35.48%
No opinion/Don't care 0 0%

Voters: 62.

It looks like we're including the WIPs :)

Hehe Cool.. But, how are you going to include them? Including them in all categories or having their own category (Best WIP of the Year).

Because some of us voted to include WIP, but not incorportae in all categories...

Or perhaps there would need a minimum chapters... ?

Julie
8th March 2009, 21:15
Hehe Cool.. But, how are you going to include them? Including them in all categories or having their own category (Best WIP of the Year).

Because some of us voted to include WIP, but not incorportae in all categories...

Or perhaps there would need a minimum chapters... ?

I'm thinking a Best WIP of the Year would be the best and most doable choice. And how about a minimum of 5 posted chapters to be eligible?

MelBee1985
8th March 2009, 21:17
I'm thinking a Best WIP of the Year would be the best and most doable choice. And how about a minimum of 5 posted chapters to be eligible?

Sounds good to me :grin3:

cypanache
8th March 2009, 21:19
I'm thinking a Best WIP of the Year would be the best and most doable choice. And how about a minimum of 5 posted chapters to be eligible?

I think this is a good choice Julie. It's a great compromise to recognize those fics that have yet to be finished, but still encourage completion (if an author wants to see the fic eligible for everything).

Avalanche
8th March 2009, 21:35
Julie, do you know which categories you will do? And is best WiP of the Year the only WiP category?

Julie
8th March 2009, 21:40
Julie, do you know which categories you will do? And is best WiP of the Year the only WiP category?

I was thinking of doing at least Best Fanfiction/Best Author in every category we have here on NS, and perhaps also adding some of the other categories suggested here.

We'll either have to do ONE WIP category, where all WIPs go, or have a separate award show for them, which personally I think kind of defeats the purpose of the awards. If we are to have a WIP category for every "normal" category as well, there's gonna be a hell of a lot of categories :S

lexie
8th March 2009, 21:42
Require login (existing NS username and password) before you can vote?

Meaning, should you have to login with your NS username and password BEFORE you are given the ability to vote? You can nominate and browse the other sections without having to log in. Why do this? To make the voting process more protected from multiple votes. I have a bare minimum security added to the script now, but if people want to, they can easily find a way around this. By adding a login requirement, it makes this way-around a little more difficult.

Iīm all for the username and password.:grin3:


I'm thinking a Best WIP of the Year would be the best and most doable choice. And how about a minimum of 5 posted chapters to be eligible?

That minimum, I think, sounds fair.


I was thinking of doing at least Best Fanfiction/Best Author in every category we have here on NS, and perhaps also adding some of the other categories suggested here.

Oh, I like this very much! (claps)

MelBee1985
8th March 2009, 21:45
ETA: I've added a new poll to the thread regarding voting.

Require login (existing NS username and password) before you can vote?

Meaning, should you have to login with your NS username and password BEFORE you are given the ability to vote? You can nominate and browse the other sections without having to log in. Why do this? To make the voting process more protected from multiple votes. I have a bare minimum security added to the script now, but if people want to, they can easily find a way around this. By adding a login requirement, it makes this way-around a little more difficult.

Wonderful idea *cough* :D

I think it's the best solution. Multiple voting takes out the real competition in my opinion...

Avalanche
8th March 2009, 21:46
Sounds like the plans of geniuses, Julie!

cypanache
8th March 2009, 22:10
I was thinking of doing at least Best Fanfiction/Best Author in every category we have here on NS, and perhaps also adding some of the other categories suggested here.

For the categories that we have here, does a fic have to have been posted in that category to be eligible for nomination in it? For example, to use two fics which are currently really not eligible because they're WIPs, but I'd nominate skauble's What You Don't Know in the Romance category though its posted in General, while I'm not sure anyone would currently think of Collaborator as a Romance though that's where its posted just as a function of where I put it. Additionally, can a fic be eligible in more than one category? I.e. A/u and romance? Humor and action?

Cy

Julie
8th March 2009, 22:17
For the categories that we have here, does a fic have to have been posted in that category to be eligible for nomination in it? For example, to use two fics which are currently really not eligible because they're WIPs, but I'd nominate skauble's What You Don't Know in the Romance category though its posted in General, while I'm not sure anyone would currently think of Collaborator as a Romance though that's where its posted just as a function of where I put it. Additionally, can a fic be eligible in more than one category? I.e. A/u and romance? Humor and action?

Cy

We can do a vote on it later, but personally I think fics should only be eligible for nomination in the category it is posted in here. So a fic posted in the General category here, goes into the General category in the award show... Otherwise, all fics can be nominated into any category to give them a higher chance of winning in that category...

lexie
8th March 2009, 22:27
Cy has made a very good point because most stories are really difficult to categorise as belonging to one genre alone. Usually stories can fit in two or even three categories because of the elements present in the plot, although one of them often tends to stand out. In my case for instance, I tend to post in the Romance section but Iīd say that almost 100% of them could be regarded as mystery fics- only thereīs no such category on the forums- and yet the love element is strong.

Oh, this will be difficult, guys! ::/: But I agree with Julie, we should better stick to the category where the author has posted the fic or itīll be bedlam.

MelBee1985
8th March 2009, 22:32
I get Cy and lexie point of view and I would agree, but I think Julie is right. That would be SO complicated... People made a choice to put their story in a category. Of course it can overlap another category, but to keep it more simple, we should keep the category they have been nominated?

Unless, maybe *maybe* if the author in it's descripiton of the fic also named another genre... We can't leave the people nominating the liberty to choose, they might not place it in right ones... PS: Makes me think... What if someone nominate a fic in the wrong category? Is it placed back in the right one or deleted?

Hmmmm

Julie
8th March 2009, 22:37
[...] What if someone nominate a fic in the wrong category? Is it placed back in the right one or deleted?

Hmmmm

If we (the site staff) have to look to find the correct category, then it will be deleted. If it's just a small dropdown-list choose error, then we can alter it...

cypanache
8th March 2009, 22:38
We can do a vote on it later, but personally I think fics should only be eligible for nomination in the category it is posted in here. So a fic posted in the General category here, goes into the General category in the award show... Otherwise, all fics can be nominated into any category to give them a higher chance of winning in that category...

Just to give a counter thought. It also means that all fics with more than three sex scenes can only be nominated in the NC-17 category (according to the board's rules) though they may have lots of elements that would lend themselves to other categories as well. Again just for example, Zannie's Irrevocable has lots of good suspense/mystery elements. While BlueSabby's Buyouts Hostile Takeovers and Matchmaking is decidely humor. While sex scenes play a role in both its not the only thing to recommend the stories, and I'm not sure limiting them to the NC-17 category and forcing them to be pitted against each other there is best way to recognize the best fic.

I think the nomination process with rounds would help to weed out fics which aren't necessarily nominated in the appropriate categories or are clearly being nominated across the board, though in my experience that doesn't happen. I'll also put out there. I think your two major problems with this decision are the general and the NC-17 category. General has a tendency to hold everything from the dark to the friendship to the adventure, to the deeply romantic. It's not particularly descriptive and its hard to judge a fic's accomplishments against that. (Keep in mind I understood there would be a best all-around category). And the NC-17 has the problem that its huge and again holds a massive cross-section of types by virtue of the forum's rules. I think there's a difference between a fic whose main focus is the sex (i.e. TAA's Deep in the Bottle) and a fic with sex in it (i.e. What You Don't Know) and I think the nominators can be trusted to make that distinction.

Just playing devil's advocate, so that we're thinking this all through.

Julie
8th March 2009, 22:45
Just to give a counter thought. It also means that all fics with more than three sex scenes can only be nominated in the NC-17 category (according to the board's rules) though they may have lots of elements that would lend themselves to other categories as well. Again just for example, Zannie's Irrevocable has lots of good suspense/mystery elements. While BlueSabby's Buyouts Hostile Takeovers and Matchmaking is decidely humor. While sex scenes play a role in both its not the only thing to recommend the stories, and I'm not sure limiting them to the NC-17 category and forcing them to be pitted against each other there is best way to recognize the best fic.

I think the nomination process with rounds would help to weed out fics which aren't necessarily nominated in the appropriate categories or are clearly being nominated across the board, though in my experience that doesn't happen. I'll also put out there. I think your two major problems with this decision are the general and the NC-17 category. General has a tendency to hold everything from the dark to the friendship to the adventure, to the deeply romantic. It's not particularly descriptive and its hard to judge a fic's accomplishments against that. (Keep in mind I understood there would be a best all-around category). And the NC-17 has the problem that its huge and again holds a massive cross-section of types by virtue of the forum's rules. I think there's a difference between a fic whose main focus is the sex (i.e. TAA's Deep in the Bottle) and a fic with sex in it (i.e. What You Don't Know) and I think the nominators can be trusted to make that distinction.

Just playing devil's advocate, so that we're thinking this all through.

I see the points you are making. It's a difficult decision...

cypanache
8th March 2009, 22:56
Just as a follow up. I know I'm hitting this issue hard, but as an author who sometimes thinks I probably shouldn't have put one my stories in the category its in, and wonders why other stories are in the category they're in. It makes me think about this.

What do you do about the additional categories that don't have a corresponding forum on the board? Does this mean we won't be recognizing A/Us (which I think would be a pity) and Adventure/Suspense stories? Or does it mean they'll be additional categories? If they are additional categories, then can stories which fall in those categories be nominated both in that categories and in the category for the forum in which they are classified? Or will the author be required to chose one nomination to put their story forward in (do they make that decision after the initial round of nominations or before)?

If we limit categories to the forum classification, then I think we should require authors to choose. To me it wouldn't necessarily seem fair to allow some stories to take noms in two categories simply because of what categories they happen to fall in while some can only take it in one.

lexie
8th March 2009, 23:00
Just to give a counter thought. It also means that all fics with more than three sex scenes can only be nominated in the NC-17 category (according to the board's rules) though they may have lots of elements that would lend themselves to other categories as well. Again just for example, Zannie's Irrevocable has lots of good suspense/mystery elements. While BlueSabby's Buyouts Hostile Takeovers and Matchmaking is decidely humor. While sex scenes play a role in both its not the only thing to recommend the stories, and I'm not sure limiting them to the NC-17 category and forcing them to be pitted against each other there is best way to recognize the best fic.

This is something that happens in every creative contest, Iīm afraid. Take the Oscars, for instance, with their one-category "Best Film" as opposed to Best Drama and Best Comedy/Musical in the Globes, which I find fairer and still... not the fairest because they put oranges and apples together. Itīs hard but understandable because of its practical reasons.

Now, what Cy says about the General fics is true. I myself have two of my works in that category, I regard them as dramatic mysteries and still love always turns up being the direction in which the story evolves. My decision to post them there was based mainly on the fact that I developed the attraction between the couple, and the getting closer kind of feeling and leave them at a point where thereīs a clear hope of something more but the ending is open. Whereas I usually go for Romance if I take things further and they get together at the end of the story.

What Cy pointed out about the NC-17 category- which I confess not to visit a lot with the one exception of Zannieīs work- is a difficult one. Itīs precisely because her stories arenīt all about the sex that I read them and yes, Iīve always thought of Irrevocable as a Drama/Mystery sort of story more than anything else.

Julie
8th March 2009, 23:13
A new suggestion has come up regarding the categories in the chatroom, join us there if you'd like!:

Instead of having forum specific categories, we'll go with other categories, such as those suggested by Cyp in post 14.

How does that sound?

For an example, instead of having a NC17 category, we can have a Best Sex Scene(s) category...

MelBee1985
8th March 2009, 23:14
Chatroom link: http://www.forums.naughty-seduction.net/chat.php

In case some people cannot find the link up on the screen :grin3:

Dannyblue
9th March 2009, 03:35
I think a reader should be able to nominate a fic in whatever category they think it fits, even if they end up nominating it in two or three categories. For example, say I read a great crossover that was also a great romance. If I think that story is one of the best I've read in either category, I'd like to be able to nominate it in both. And, if the story actually wins in both, that just shows what an awesome story it is, which is what awards are all about. :D

I also agree that, during nominations, letting everyone nominate their dream list of nominees in each category will help with this issue. My five nominees for best crossover will be different from the next person's, or the next, which will ensure there's lots of variety. It will also increase the chances of having at least five nominations in each category. (Which I've seen turn out to be a problem in a lot of fic awards.)

(Of course, people doing the nominating should be free to pick only one story per category if they want.)

lexie
9th March 2009, 04:22
I think a reader should be able to nominate a fic in whatever category they think it fits, even if they end up nominating it in two or three categories. For example, say I read a great crossover that was also a great romance. If I think that story is one of the best I've read in either category, I'd like to be able to nominate it in both. And, if the story actually wins in both, that just shows what an awesome story it is, which is what awards are all about. :D

I also agree that, during nominations, letting everyone nominate their dream list of nominees in each category will help with this issue. My five nominees for best crossover will be different from the next person's, or the next, which will ensure there's lots of variety. It will also increase the chances of having at least five nominations in each category. (Which I've seen turn out to be a problem in a lot of fic awards.)

(Of course, people doing the nominating should be free to pick only one story per category if they want.)

I think youīll be happy to know that what you suggest is what more less has been agreed in the chatroom. Julie should be posting news soon.:grin3:

Julie
9th March 2009, 15:49
First post is updated with new information :) The new information is written in italics. Big thanks to those who were in the chatroom at the time for helping me sort this out :)

lexie
9th March 2009, 17:58
Who can be nominated?

Everyone who has ever published a fanfiction here on NS Forums and fanfictions posted here on NS Forums. Usually previous winners can't be entered, but seeing as I don't have on record the previous winners for the Fanfiction Award show, I'm allowing everyone to enter this year, even past winners (should anyone remember the previous winners...)


Hey, Julie! What about what we discussed with the girls to take into account just the fics posted after 2003- the last time a contest of this sort was organised?

ETA: It was great to be able to help. :)

MelBee1985
9th March 2009, 17:58
First post is updated with new information :) The new information is written in italics. Big thanks to those who were in the chatroom at the time for helping me sort this out :)

No prob Julie :D

It was a random meeting, but it has been apparently really helpful, hehe.

Julie
9th March 2009, 18:40
Hey, Julie! What about what we discussed with the girls to take into account just the fics posted after 2003- the last time a contest of this sort was organised?

ETA: It was great to be able to help. :)


Thanks for the heads up Lexie, I've edited the first post now :)


No prob Julie :D

It was a random meeting, but it has been apparently really helpful, hehe.

Hehe, sometimes awesome stuff comes out of randomness :D Just think of the Post-It!

letia84
9th March 2009, 22:29
I going with Yes, make the voting process more secure! You should be a member if your going to vote.

MelBee1985
9th March 2009, 22:31
I going with Yes, make the voting process more secure! You should be a member if your going to vote.

mhm And mostly, it avoids multiple votes, which doesn't really give a fair competition, in my opinion.

Ok, NOW I'm excited Julie, let it start :D

Julie
9th March 2009, 23:10
mhm And mostly, it avoids multiple votes, which doesn't really give a fair competition, in my opinion.

Ok, NOW I'm excited Julie, let it start :D

Hehe, I'm working on it, I'm working on it! :D

cypanache
10th March 2009, 01:09
Hey Julie thanks for updating the rules on the first page. Just two things (I know we're killing you here).

1) The 2003 rule -- I thought it was fics completed after 2003 (because there was a limitation on the categories WIPs could be nominated in) -- If I'm wrong about that just ignore me.

2) WIPs -- We should probably clarify the fact that WIPs will only be eligible in the WIP and carechterization categories.

Okay have I been enough of a bother now?

Dannyblue
10th March 2009, 02:13
Sadly, I can never get the chatroom thingie to work for me here.

I think you should definitely keep the awards to 20 categories or less. But I do have other category ideas. (Which are probably being discussed in the chatroom I can't get into. :( )

1. Best Drama (Because not all dramatic stories are angsty.)

2. Best Darkfic/Horror (For stories that deal with creepiness, whether physical or psychological.)

3. Best Multi-Chapter Story (Since there's already a short story category.)

4. Best Series. (For stories with sequels.)

5. Best Collaboration. (For those stories written by more than one person.)

Just some thoughts. Feel free to totally ignore them. :D

Also, what do you mean by "Best Canon." Do you mean stories that stick closest to the show's canon, or stories that are most like an episode of the show?

MelBee1985
10th March 2009, 02:20
Sadly, I can never get the chatroom thingie to work for me here.

I think you should definitely keep the awards to 20 categories or less. But I do have other category ideas. (Which are probably being discussed in the chatroom I can't get into. :( )

1. Best Drama (Because not all dramatic stories are angsty.)

2. Best Darkfic/Horror (For stories that deal with creepiness, whether physical or psychological.)

3. Best Multi-Chapter Story (Since there's already a short story category.)

4. Best Series. (For stories with sequels.)

5. Best Collaboration. (For those stories written by more than one person.)

Just some thoughts. Feel free to totally ignore them. :D

Also, what do you mean by "Best Canon." Do you mean stories that stick closest to the show's canon, or stories that are most like an episode of the show?

I'm not sure about 3 and 5 (5, there aren't alot in team, no?), but I do wanted to suggest the drama too and I dunno if there is alot series, but I agree it could be interesting.

No 2.. Any example?

:D

Dannyblue
10th March 2009, 02:30
I'm not sure about 3 and 5 (5, there aren't alot in team, no?), but I do wanted to suggest the drama too and I dunno if there is alot series, but I agree it could be interesting.

No 2.. Any example?

:D

Well, yes, I have written my share of darkish fic. :)

But I love to read it too, but it can be hard to find here. So I was selfishly thinking a list of nominated darkfics would make it easier for me to find 'em. :D

cypanache
10th March 2009, 02:55
1. Best Drama (Because not all dramatic stories are angsty.)

While I could see it, I will put out there that I do think most of the "dramas" on this board would wind up falling in at least one of the other categories (i.e. romance, adventure/suspense, a/u, canon, Erotica, etc.) Though I think it has some merit. Anyone else's thoughts on this?


2. Best Darkfic/Horror (For stories that deal with creepiness, whether physical or psychological.)

Again I think this can be covered in large part with the Adventure/Suspense category; also I'm there with Lexie that I'm not sure I can think of enough to create a true competition in a category. We don't want to create categories where fics will be nominated or win by default. We want to keep this competition exactly that.


3. Best Multi-Chapter Story (Since there's already a short story category.)

I think there's a short story category because the large majority of the stories likely to be nominated are multi-chaptered stories for all the other categories.


4. Best Series. (For stories with sequels.)

I can think of a couple (mostly Zannie's Nameless, and Lessons) We got any others on the board? (TAA's Deep in Bottle/Depths, but then we'd have to address the WIP issue for series) If we've got enough, this could have potential, but again I think there need to be enough stories to really make it a category.


5. Best Collaboration. (For those stories written by more than one person.)

Like Lexie I'm not sure how many we've got. I can think of three, BlueSabby, SuperCLL's HTC (which is a WIP) and Dark Path (also a WIP). So we're back to the same issue making sure there's enough out there to make this worth the category. Because there's nothing to prevent any of these stories from being nominated anywhere else.


Also, what do you mean by "Best Canon." Do you mean stories that stick closest to the show's canon, or stories that are most like an episode of the show?

I think the idea was stories that best work within or stick closest to the show's canon. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong . . .

Dannyblue
10th March 2009, 06:03
All very good points, cypanache. But, like I said, I was just tossing ideas out there. I was going to suggest a Best Crossover category too but figured that, since that one was pretty obvious but not on the list, it must have already been dismissed for some reason.

lexie
10th March 2009, 07:10
While I could see it, I will put out there that I do think most of the "dramas" on this board would wind up falling in at least one of the other categories (i.e. romance, adventure/suspense, a/u, canon, Erotica, etc.) Though I think it has some merit. Anyone else's thoughts on this?

I agree with you. As I said in the chat room, my fics- for instance- are all of them romantic and, yet, they could also fall into the drama and suspense categories; so youīre right in that dramas can also be eligible in other categories. Still, there are enough dramas to justify the creation of a category. Although if we keep on adding cats, itīll become a mammoth.



I think there's a short story category because the large majority of the stories likely to be nominated are multi-chaptered stories for all the other categories.

Yes, I think that was the main purpose of creating a specific category for the one-shots.




I can think of a couple (mostly Zannie's Nameless, and Lessons) We got any others on the board? (TAA's Deep in Bottle/Depths, but then we'd have to address the WIP issue for series) If we've got enough, this could have potential, but again I think there need to be enough stories to really make it a category.

There are others like PMDīs How We Never met Series, but there arenīt so very many. Besides, Peggyīs could be considered short fics, for thatīs what they are; they can even be read individually.



Like Lexie I'm not sure how many we've got. I can think of three, BlueSabby, SuperCLL's HTC (which is a WIP) and Dark Path (also a WIP). So we're back to the same issue making sure there's enough out there to make this worth the category. Because there's nothing to prevent any of these stories from being nominated anywhere else.

Thereīs none other I can think of; no. Besides, all their fics can be considered for multiple categories.




I think the idea was stories that best work within or stick closest to the show's canon. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong . . .

This category is somewhat tricky. Like Dannyblue Iīd probably go with the stories that have been written around a particular episode or that have many references to things that actually happened on the show- like toryjhayīs Divided Devotions, for instance.

Julie
10th March 2009, 09:34
Hey Julie thanks for updating the rules on the first page. Just two things (I know we're killing you here).

1) The 2003 rule -- I thought it was fics completed after 2003 (because there was a limitation on the categories WIPs could be nominated in) -- If I'm wrong about that just ignore me.

2) WIPs -- We should probably clarify the fact that WIPs will only be eligible in the WIP and carechterization categories.

Okay have I been enough of a bother now?

Yes, you are killing me :P lol!

1) First post updated, thanks. Those little pesky details :D

2) First post updated :)

sabby
10th March 2009, 22:11
Joining late in the game, but not too late I hope.

I don't know if anyone has brought up this subject, but I was wondering what's going to happen with stories that involve sexual situations and therefore are posted in NC-17, but are not defined solely by that aspect.

...okay that was thesis speak, sorry.

Basically I want to know if all stories that have smutty scenes in them are going to be chucked into one box for nomination as 'best nc-17' or if a story that is, for example, mainly Humor but has a few smut scenes can be nominated for 'best humor fic'

Cause I think it would be kind of weird to chuck something as multi-faceted as Sanguis Quid Ligurat in the same box as Earning his Inches or Penetrating Interview.

lexie
10th March 2009, 22:20
Joining late in the game, but not too late I hope.

I don't know if anyone has brought up this subject, but I was wondering what's going to happen with stories that involve sexual situations and therefore are posted in NC-17, but are not defined solely by that aspect.


...okay that was thesis speak, sorry.

Basically I want to know if all stories that have smutty scenes in them are going to be chucked into one box for nomination as 'best nc-17' or if a story that is, for example, mainly Humor but has a few smut scenes can be nominated for 'best humor fic'

Cause I think it would be kind of weird to chuck something as multi-faceted as Sanguis Quid Ligurat in the same box as Earning his Inches or Penetrating Interview.


Weīve discussed this and pointed out this very same thing. Some NC-17 fics are PWP but most of them have enough elements to put them in multiple categories. Readers will be able to vote NC-17 stories as erotica and at the same time as Adventure/Suspense, Angst, and so on. Weīre not voting fics according to where the authors have posted them but according to our perception of them. One story can get multiple nominations across the board.

MelBee1985
10th March 2009, 22:38
Joining late in the game, but not too late I hope.

I don't know if anyone has brought up this subject, but I was wondering what's going to happen with stories that involve sexual situations and therefore are posted in NC-17, but are not defined solely by that aspect.

...okay that was thesis speak, sorry.

Basically I want to know if all stories that have smutty scenes in them are going to be chucked into one box for nomination as 'best nc-17' or if a story that is, for example, mainly Humor but has a few smut scenes can be nominated for 'best humor fic'

Cause I think it would be kind of weird to chuck something as multi-faceted as Sanguis Quid Ligurat in the same box as Earning his Inches or Penetrating Interview.

I get what you mean.. I actually thought there should have been a PWP category, because the humour/drama, etc N17 can be both nominated in NC17 and drama/humour.

NC17 was a huge debate.... :/

sabby
10th March 2009, 22:41
Thanks Lexie and MelBee for clearing that up. Of course I missed the big discussion. I have talent for that.

Anyhoo, I'm glad to hear that stories aren't going to be sorted according to rating but their actual plot/category.

So, with all the possible nomination categories I've seen flying around in this thread, has anyone piled them all together and made a list yet, or is everything still up for discussion and all over the place?

MelBee1985
10th March 2009, 22:42
Thanks Lexie and MelBee for clearing that up. Of course I missed the big discussion. I have talent for that.

Anyhoo, I'm glad to hear that stories aren't going to be sorted according to rating but their actual plot/category.

So, with all the possible nomination categories I've seen flying around in this thread, has anyone piled them all together and made a list yet, or is everything still up for discussion and all over the place?


No prob, hehe.

First post of Julie, she edited the categories.

What I like is that you can nominate a fic for more than one category (still not sure how many it will be; 2,3?) so one fic can be in the runner up for drama, nc 17 and suspense at the same time hehe. hehe

;)

cypanache
10th March 2009, 22:56
As Mel and Lexie said the NC17 was a huge debate. It's one of the reasons we finally wound up classifying the category as Erotica rather than simply NC17 to get across the point that it wasn't just about the rating but the entire feel of the story.

As Mel said the current complete category listing is in the first post. I do think probably the one issue still open for debate is whether to add a general drama category in addition to all the other categories listed (as proposed by Dannyblue). I know I'm on the fence on this issue (largely because we're already up to 15 categories and we're trying to keep this from becoming massive), but I see the potential merit. And Lexie has voiced her opinions, so feel free to add any thoughts you might have.

sabby
10th March 2009, 23:22
The issue I see for adding a category of 'Best Drama' is the question how you define 'general drama'.

It needs a definition that will separate it clearly from all the other categories and then of course stories that fit the criteria.

But, basically, since we have a category for 'General fiction' on the boards I think there should also be a category for it in the awards.

And as for the number of categories already present, well, we're still a long way away from the overload of more official award ceremonies (glances towards the academy and golden globe peeps)

Julie
10th March 2009, 23:42
It's not a problem to add more categories :)

lexie
10th March 2009, 23:44
But, basically, since we have a category for 'General fiction' on the boards I think there should also be a category for it in the awards.


Weīve had a very very long discussion over this and reached the conclusion that this category- General- has a tendency to be used by authors when they donīt know exactly where to post a fic because it has too many elements in it. We decided it should be left out in favour of voting those fics that were posted as General in multiple categories- i.e. a General fic on the boards could be voted as romance, angst and Adventure/Suspense, for instance.

The General category as we agreed in the chat room is a very difficult one to define.

Julie
11th March 2009, 09:16
All right, I've closed the poll regarding having to log in with your NS username and password before being able to nominate and vote, seeing as so many of you voted yes, and the fact that I have already implemented the code for it :)

Kit Merlot
15th March 2009, 00:56
*Only fanfictions posted and completed AFTER 2003 can enter. This is because a previous fanfictions award show was held around 2003

I was just going through the "Completed" sections of the fanfic forums, and I'm amazed at how many of my old favorites were posted in 2003!

Of course, I have so many other fabulous fics to choose from...

but it still gave me pause.

Okay, just wanted to share--please carry on:D

Julie
15th March 2009, 22:29
View the promotional video made by westwingwolf over at the website!

NS Fanfiction Awards 2009! (http://network.naughty-seduction.net/ffa09/)

ETA: Any other categories you guys wish to have added? For the time being, the categories posted in the first post are added to the script...

lexie
16th March 2009, 00:24
Great vid, Mindy! Evil Chlex giving Lana and Clark what they deserve- oh, you naughty, girl!:rofl: Iīm looking forward to the voting process.:nsparty:

Julie
16th March 2009, 01:04
Site is now launched! The nominations will open tomorrow at midday GMT+1 time, so if there are any other categories you guys want me to add, let me know! :)

lexie
16th March 2009, 01:26
Site is now launched! The nominations will open tomorrow at midday GMT+1 time, so if there are any other categories you guys want me to add, let me know! :)

Hey, Julie! Where are we to go to submit our nominations? NSīs blog? Where the Advent Calendar is usually posted?

Julie
16th March 2009, 01:33
Hey, Julie! Where are we to go to submit our nominations? NSīs blog? Where the Advent Calendar is usually posted?


On the same site, the link to the page will reveal itself tomorrow midday GMT+1 time! If you're not sure what time GMT+1 is, you can take a look at the bottom of the Fic Awards site, there you can see what time it is in Oslo at the moment :)

You will then be able to fill out a form online to nominate :)

lexie
16th March 2009, 01:42
On the same site, the link to the page will reveal itself tomorrow midday GMT+1 time! If you're not sure what time GMT+1 is, you can take a look at the bottom of the Fic Awards site, there you can see what time it is in Oslo at the moment :)

You will then be able to fill out a form online to nominate :)

Silly me! Iīve just seen the link below the banner. Thanks for your help.:blinkkiss

MelBee1985
16th March 2009, 03:07
Hmm That's great I'm excited.. but hmm can't find where is the video.... :/

lexie
16th March 2009, 03:17
Hmm That's great I'm excited.. but hmm can't find where is the video.... :/

Click here (http://network.naughty-seduction.net/ffa09/), darling.

MelBee1985
16th March 2009, 03:20
Click here (http://network.naughty-seduction.net/ffa09/), darling.

I did actually. And looked all around. Cannot find it. It doesn't appear at all on the site. at least for me.

lexie
16th March 2009, 03:36
Oh, my! Julie must have removed it because I watched it before the site was launched.

By the way, you might want to delete your penultimate post because youīve posted the same twice.:grin3:

MelBee1985
16th March 2009, 03:51
Oh, my! Julie must have removed it because I watched it before the site was launched.

By the way, you might want to delete your penultimate post because youīve posted the same twice.:grin3:

Yeah my Firefox got slow... It's deleted now.

As for the video, we will have t see if she put it back.

I was thinking of perhaps having a cateogry called "Best FanFic Video" those based on stories over here.. Of Course, YouTube is being a shit, so it kinda complicate the process... :/

lexie
16th March 2009, 03:54
Yeah my Firefox got slow... It's deleted now.

As for the video, we will have t see if she put it back.

I was thinking of perhaps having a cateogry called "Best FanFic Video" those based on stories over here.. Of Course, YouTube is being a shit, so it kinda complicate the process... :/

Thatīd be interesting. However, weīd be in the same conundrum as with the graphic art made for NS fics- there arenīt that very many banners and/or vids to choose from.::/:

MelBee1985
16th March 2009, 03:58
Thatīd be interesting. However, weīd be in the same conundrum as with the graphic art made for NS fics- there arenīt that very many banners and/or vids to choose from.::/:

True. Though.. to be best seen by everyone, the pictures could have been displayed over the FFA site, so peple can look at them and vote. We could all put them to nominations. I'm sure there is more than 3. And then make the top 3 of it, vote and have a winner.

Same for videos...

What you think?

lexie
16th March 2009, 05:38
True. Though.. to be best seen by everyone, the pictures could have been displayed over the FFA site, so peple can look at them and vote. We could all put them to nominations. I'm sure there is more than 3. And then make the top 3 of it, vote and have a winner.

Same for videos...

What you think?

I think graphic and video artists deserve recognition, but the videos and banners that have been inspired on fanfics on this site- as far as I remember- arenīt so many as I said before.

Some videos donīt even have working links anymore- Beckyīs Untouchable and Irrevocable based on Zannieīs fics are a clear example. Thereīs The Depths We Sink To, superagīs The Undoing of Lex Luthor, Heeding the Call and the one she made for The Upper Hand. Ultra has also a couple of them that I remember- What is and What should Never Be and the one she made for superagīs fic The Upper Hand. Itīd be a competition between no more than six or seven vids.

Letia, Esther and Ultra are the names that come to mind when thinking about banners for fics. Again... are there enough to create a real competition? Maybe we could browse the site and see how many were made for fics posted after 2003.

MelBee1985
16th March 2009, 05:51
I think graphic and video artists deserve recognition, but the videos and banners that have been inspired on fanfics on this site- as far as I remember- arenīt so many as I said before.

Some videos donīt even have working links anymore- Beckyīs Untouchable and Irrevocable based on Zannieīs fics are a clear example. Thereīs The Depths We Sink To, superagīs The Undoing of Lex Luthor, Heeding the Call and the one she made for The Upper Hand. Ultra has also a couple of them that I remember- What is and What should Never Be and the one she made for superagīs fic The Upper Hand. Itīd be a competition between no more than six or seven vids.

Letia, Esther and Ultra are the names that come to mind when thinking about banners for fics. Again... are there enough to create a real competition? Maybe we could browse the site and see how many were made for fics posted after 2003.

Well for the videos, as stated, there could be put in the FFA website, if Julie can (up to her hehe) and I think 6-7 is enough. I also have one called Dark Path (Cannot put it here because YouTube is being shitty!!)

As for the pictures, I also have one for my fic. I think there might be more and we just don't know it because we might not have read those stories.

But hehe, only a suggestion. I know it's not as easy to do as for the fics.. ;)

Julie
16th March 2009, 10:07
I did actually. And looked all around. Cannot find it. It doesn't appear at all on the site. at least for me.


Oh, my! Julie must have removed it because I watched it before the site was launched.

Yup, it was on the just-before-launch page :)

But here's a direct link to it! :)

http://network.naughty-seduction.net/ffa09/media/trailer/trailer.html

Julie
16th March 2009, 13:08
'*bump* The nomination is now opened! Go to the website and login with your NS username and password at the bottom of the page and you will be able to start nominating!

Know that you can nominate a fic/author in several categories, you just have to fill out the form as many times as needed ;)

Enjoy!

Julie
16th March 2009, 17:40
Guys, when nominating, please don't add the rating and/or date if nominating a fanfiction. Just the title of the fic please :)

Avalanche
16th March 2009, 17:48
Julie, is there a way to see all nominations and not just the latest 5 approved?

Julie
16th March 2009, 18:09
Julie, is there a way to see all nominations and not just the latest 5 approved?

On the left, where the menu is, you can view all nominations in a particular category. Or did you mean just ALL nominations in EVERY category all in one page? If the latter, nope, but I can make one if people want it...

Avalanche
16th March 2009, 18:10
Yeah, I think maybe a consolidated all noms in every cat might be helpful. It might reduce the number of redundant entries if they can be seen all at once instead of clicking each category and reading.

Julie
16th March 2009, 18:32
Yeah, I think maybe a consolidated all noms in every cat might be helpful. It might reduce the number of redundant entries if they can be seen all at once instead of clicking each category and reading.

Then I'll get to work on that later today, when I get home :)

MelBee1985
16th March 2009, 18:47
I approve because it is getting confusing already :D

I'm like.. What have been nominated already in which category? lol

I see not much people have nominated authors so far....

Julie, how long will the process be (of nominations?)

Also... I noticed in the 5 first approved, one is called "Lex in In Experience". I think it's "In Experience" only right? Since on thje right we see that the category is "Best charaterization of Lex" Just a thought ;)

Julie
16th March 2009, 18:59
I approve because it is getting confusing already :D

I'm like.. What have been nominated already in which category? lol

I see not much people have nominated authors so far....

Julie, how long will the process be (of nominations?)

Also... I noticed in the 5 first approved, one is called "Lex in In Experience". I think it's "In Experience" only right? Since on thje right we see that the category is "Best charaterization of Lex" Just a thought ;)

Yup.

I've stopped approving noms at the moment, as I'm not at home, and working on a small asus eee 8 inches screen isn't the best :D I'll go through the noms later tonight and make those additions if I get the time and no bigger technical troubles :)

lexie
16th March 2009, 19:14
Julie, the Uncategorised category isnīt supposed to be for your use only? At least, thatīs what I thought when I read the categories yesterday. Iīm asking you this because someoneīs nominated my fic "Secrets and Lies" and put it in that category. Or is it up to you to decide in which category youīd put it?

MelBee1985
16th March 2009, 19:17
Julie, the Uncategorised category isnīt supposed to be for your use only? At least, thatīs what I thought when I read the categories yesterday. Iīm asking you this because someoneīs nominated my fic "Secrets and Lies" and put it in that category. Or is it up to you to decide in which category youīd put it?

Unless it changed, all fics in this category will be deleted. I already asked, knowing some users might not know it or might not read instructions...

Julie
16th March 2009, 19:18
Julie, the Uncategorised category isnīt supposed to be for your use only? At least, thatīs what I thought when I read the categories yesterday. Iīm asking you this because someoneīs nominated my fic "Secrets and Lies" and put it in that category. Or is it up to you to decide in which category youīd put it?


The uncategorized section is just for my use yes, I haven't figured out how to not include it in the listing just yet :)

The person doing the nomination decides which category she or he wants to nominate in. The person who nominated yours probably just made a mistake...

lexie
16th March 2009, 19:25
Oh, well, I hope she realises the mistake.::/:

Julie
16th March 2009, 20:22
A all nominees list is complete:

http://network.naughty-seduction.net/ffa09/index.php?handle=allnominees

Dannyblue
16th March 2009, 20:28
It's it's probably too late for this now, but I can't help thinking a write-in form would've been much easier on everybody, both the nominators and Julie. You know, where everyone just makes a list of their choice nominees in each category (up to five) and emails them in. Then you could just look at the latest forms, and make quick editions to the official nominees list. Filling out the form again and again for every nomination is a little tiring, and trying to remember who you nominated for what, is a little confusing. And it seems like Julie is already being run ragged by the current process.

MelBee1985
16th March 2009, 20:39
A all nominees list is complete:

http://network.naughty-seduction.net/ffa09/index.php?handle=allnominees

I just finished approving all qualified nominees *sigh* That was long!!


I'm taking a second look, see if some WIP have been nominated for things they shouldn't.

2 remains (lexie's story... I don't think we have the right to choose a category, since we don't know where the person who nomianted it would havep ut it; kleine_kat (She wrote 1 fic, yet it's before Jan 08... But like Dec 07... So I'm torn... :/)

Julie
16th March 2009, 21:26
It's it's probably too late for this now, but I can't help thinking a write-in form would've been much easier on everybody, both the nominators and Julie. You know, where everyone just makes a list of their choice nominees in each category (up to five) and emails them in. Then you could just look at the latest forms, and make quick editions to the official nominees list. Filling out the form again and again for every nomination is a little tiring, and trying to remember who you nominated for what, is a little confusing. And it seems like Julie is already being run ragged by the current process.


If I understood you correctly, ... I would have to then manually enter the nominees myself anyways, for the vote system to work...

The nominations list just got big because I stopped approving several hours ago, because I'm at my friends house... :)

As I said earlier, I'll try and alter the nomination script so that it checks if an nominee is already nominated in that particular category before it goes into the system :) Then it won't be as many doubles!

lexie
16th March 2009, 21:31
2 remains (lexie's story... I don't think we have the right to choose a category, since we don't know where the person who nomianted it would havep ut it;

No, of course not. Itīll be deleted, Iīm afraid. I trust any of my usual readers or whoeverīs submitted it will come back and post it in the right category.

So... a warning to everybody who hasnīt nominated yet or who has but doesnīt know this: DONīT USE THE UNCATEGORISED OPTION BECAUSE YOUR CHOICE WILL BE DELETED. UNCATEGORISED DOESNīT MEAN "PUT IT HERE WHEN YOU DONīT KNOW WHERE IT FITS." UNCATEGORISED IS ONLY FOR JULIE TO USE.

Avalanche
16th March 2009, 22:20
Julie, I noticed that collaborating authors are being nominated for best author, how are you dealing with that?

lexie
16th March 2009, 22:33
Julie, I noticed that collaborating authors are being nominated for best author, how are you dealing with that?

Most collaborators are also individual writers who can be nominated for their own solo works. When discussing about this in the chatroom we said we should be able to nominate collaborators as a unity for fics written together, so those nominations wonīt count double as if you were nominating two people but as a team.

Avalanche
16th March 2009, 22:36
Gotcha

Julie
17th March 2009, 01:11
The uncategorised section is just for my use yes, I haven't figured out how to not include it in the listing just yet :)

Woho, figured it out :) The uncategorised is now not displayed at the nominate page. And now I'm off to bed :D

lexie
17th March 2009, 02:19
Woho, figured it out :) The uncategorised is now not displayed at the nominate page. And now I'm off to bed :D


Thatīs very good news indeed. :grin3:Itīll prevent the same mistake from happening to other authors.::/:

Dannyblue
17th March 2009, 03:27
If I understood you correctly, ... I would have to then manually enter the nominees myself anyways, for the vote system to work...

Having spent my fair share of time trying to get wacky technology to work the way I wanted it to, my knee-jerk instinct is to avoid it as much as possible. Hearing what you were going through trying to get things working right kinda freaked me out. :D

Julie
17th March 2009, 07:26
Thatīs very good news indeed. :grin3:Itīll prevent the same mistake from happening to other authors.::/:

Aww, no worries. I'm sure you'll fic will get nominated again ;)


Having spent my fair share of time trying to get wacky technology to work the way I wanted it to, my knee-jerk instinct is to avoid it as much as possible. Hearing what you were going through trying to get things working right kinda freaked me out. :D

Hehe. Well, I'm often, if not always, up to a challenge :D It's just that I'm no expert (yet) in PHP, which is the language the FFA site is using! But I love googling trying to figure code out ;)

lexie
20th March 2009, 23:59
Just as Mel, Iīve noticed there havenīt been any new submissions lately. I suppose the ones who have already proposed their favourites are those who usually give feedback on peopleīs stories.

However, I believe itīd be a good idea to keep the submission period open for another week- itīd give those who might still be "gathering their thoughts" and recalling old stories they read enough time to present their candidates. Less than a week has elapsed since you launched the site, and maybe not all regular visitors have been around or had the time to fill in the forms during the working days when theyīre too busy either with their jobs or studies.

What do you think?

Julie
21st March 2009, 00:24
Just as Mel, Iīve noticed there havenīt been any new submissions lately. I suppose the ones who have already proposed their favourites are those who usually give feedback on peopleīs stories.

However, I believe itīd be a good idea to keep the submission period open for another week- itīd give those who might still be "gathering their thoughts" and recalling old stories they read enough time to present their candidates. Less than a week has elapsed since you launched the site, and maybe not all regular visitors have been around or had the time to fill in the forms during the working days when theyīre too busy either with their jobs or studies.

What do you think?


At first I have to figure out to do the voting thing, where people can choose their top 5 from the list in the first round... So I'll leave the nomination period open until I figure out that :)

lexie
21st March 2009, 00:27
At first I have to figure out to do the voting thing, where people can choose their top 5 from the list in the first round... So I'll leave the nomination period open until I figure out that :)

Cool. I just mentioned this because I stumbled upon a comment of yours on Melīs profile and thought you were planning to close the submission period this weekend.:grin3:

Ultra
22nd March 2009, 12:07
Woah, I have been AWOL way too long! :eek:

I just checked and all my fave fics and authors have already been nominated, so I have nothing to do til the voting begins *sigh*

Still, so thrilling to see two of my own fics nominated! Yayness! :D

Hmm... wonder what else I've missed around here... Oh yeah, I should probably make an effort to update my fic too...

Julie
22nd March 2009, 12:12
Woah, I have been AWOL way too long! :eek:

I just checked and all my fave fics and authors have already been nominated, so I have nothing to do til the voting begins *sigh*

Still, so thrilling to see two of my own fics nominated! Yayness! :D

Hmm... wonder what else I've missed around here... Oh yeah, I should probably make an effort to update my fic too...

Hehe, NS is a fast-paced community :D

Julie
23rd March 2009, 16:50
It's almost time for the voting to open, so here's a banner nominees can put in your signatures :)

http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/misc/nsffa09-banner_voteForMe_forum-size.jpg

The URL to the image: http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/misc/nsffa09-banner_voteForMe_forum-size.jpg

Here's a finished code that you can directly copy and paste into your own signature. This code will insert the image, as well as a link to the FFA site :)



http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/misc/nsffa09-banner_voteForMe_forum-size.jpg (http://network.naughty-seduction.net/ffa09/)
Vote for me in the NS Fanfiction Awards 2009! (http://network.naughty-seduction.net/ffa09/)

Just ignore the fact that it says PHP code, I just had to use that so it wouldn't print out the image in the above code :)

Which will look like this:

http://forums.naughty-seduction.net/misc/nsffa09-banner_voteForMe_forum-size.jpg (http://network.naughty-seduction.net/ffa09/)
Vote for me in the NS Fanfiction Awards 2009! (http://network.naughty-seduction.net/ffa09/)

Yes, the banner IS larger than what the forum rules specify, but for this purpose it's okay to have a larger banner, but this goes only for this particular banner ;)

lexie
23rd March 2009, 17:07
Thanks for the banner, Julie. Iīve already changed my signature. :grin3:

MelBee1985
23rd March 2009, 17:10
Thanks! Going to update my joint account as we speak :D

Julie
23rd March 2009, 17:19
Cool :)

I'm going to send out an e-mail, or at least try to send out an e-mail :P, to all the users about the voting, and that the voting begins tonight at 9pm Oslo, Norway GMT+1 time! It's 4:19pm here now :)

Julie
23rd March 2009, 19:34
All right, the sending of e-mail failed pretty hard because of the servers anti-spam control (which in it self is a good thing), so a mass PM was sent instead :)


The first round of voting in the Fanfictions Awards 2009 starts later today at 9pm GMT+1 time!

If you have any last minute nominations, be sure to get them in before then.

As specified in the rules, this round will be used to limit the currently nominated fanfictions down to five finalists. You may vote for as many or as few fanfictions in each category as you would like, but you can only vote once in this round. We encourage you to use this vote to create your dream slate, and vote for your top five fanfictions or authors in each each category.

This round will be open from March 23rd 2009 through March 29th 2009 (about a week). The finalists will be announced around March 30th 2009 and the final voting will also start around then.

The more participation we have, the better the fanfiction awards will be, so please go to the website to vote and support your favorites.

Sincerely,
Julie

Julie
23rd March 2009, 20:50
Just going to post up a quick how-to for the voting process :)

When the voting opens, you will find a new navigational link in the menu called Nomination Polls. When you click on that link, you will be presented with a (probably long) list, with all the categories and their nominees listed with check boxes next to them.

You don't have to select anyone in the categories, BUT you *must* select at least ONE nominee (doesn't matter which category) for the voting to be accepted! If you don't select anyone and try to hit Vote, you will be presented with an error message.

This round is NOT the same as the final voting round, meaning that who you vote for now will not necessarily win. The top 5 nominees from this round will go to the next and final round where you then will vote for the top 1 nominee, which will be the winner.

That said, you can vote for as many, or as few, in each category (as long as you at least select ONE from any category) as you want to. Just remember that, voting for every single nominee in each category won't help your favourites make the cut...

If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask! :) I personally have seen myself blind on the whole process, but it might be unclear to you guys :D

ETA: 1 hour and 10 minutes until the voting opens!!

lexie
23rd March 2009, 23:07
Done!

A question: what happens if thereīs a tie in any of the categories? I suppose this wonīt be a problem at this stage. Imagine the following scenario: one fic with 10 votes, one with 8, one with 6, and two with four- theyīd all be included in the top five, leaving out a fic that got, say, 5 votes. Now, what would happen in the final round if two fics got the maximum number of votes? Would the award be ex-aequo?

Julie
23rd March 2009, 23:12
Done!

A question: what happens if thereīs a tie in any of the categories? I suppose this wonīt be a problem at this stage. Imagine the following scenario: one fic with 10 votes, one with 8, one with 6, and two with four- theyīd all be included in the top five, leaving out a fic that got, say, 5 votes. Now, what would happen in the final round if two fics got the maximum number of votes? Would the award be ex-aequo?

If there is a tie in this first round, the top 5 (or 6 if there's a tie) will be included. If there is a tie for the top in the last and final round, the two will share the spotlight of Best in that category :)

The top 5 in each category will be selected by number of votes, who ever gets the most votes will be included. And then if there is a tie for spot number 5, they'll all be included. :)

Ultra
23rd March 2009, 23:15
Um, I might be blind but when I was casting my votes I don't remember seeing the category for Best Canon... I didn't really realise til I'd hit the vote button so now it won't let me go back and check... meh, its probably me being blind, I am an old and crumbly 25 as of today, y'know! haha ;)

lexie
23rd March 2009, 23:19
Thanks for the clarification, Julie.:)


Um, I might be blind but when I was casting my votes I don't remember seeing the category for Best Canon... I didn't really realise til I'd hit the vote button so now it won't let me go back and check... meh, its probably me being blind, I am an old and crumbly 25 as of today, y'know! haha ;)

No, youīre not blind. Now that you say it, youīre right.::/:

Julie
23rd March 2009, 23:19
Um, I might be blind but when I was casting my votes I don't remember seeing the category for Best Canon... I didn't really realise til I'd hit the vote button so now it won't let me go back and check... meh, its probably me being blind, I am an old and crumbly 25 as of today, y'know! haha ;)

Hey!

The canon category was excluded because it had 5 or less nominees, which means all nominees automatically included into the next round :) No need to vote for them when they're all included :D

lexie
23rd March 2009, 23:21
Hey!

The canon category was excluded because it had 5 or less nominees, which means all nominees automatically included into the next round :) No need to vote for them when they're all included :D

I remembered the rule but didnīt realise there werenīt as many as six fics nominated in that category to justify casting a vote.

Julie
23rd March 2009, 23:27
I remembered the rule but didnīt realise there werenīt as many as six fics nominated in that category to justify casting a vote.

Yup :) I put back up the list with all the nominees so you guys could find the links and such :)

ChloeLovesLex
23rd March 2009, 23:28
:confuse2:Not certain if it matters, but on the chance that there was a tallying system in place that counted for each check mark a selection got I thought I'd let you know that "The Infidelity Project" is listed twice in Best WIP ;)

Edited to add:
Also, how long is voting in this round open? I have a few shorts stories to catch up on to make an informed vote :confuse2:

Julie
23rd March 2009, 23:30
Not certain if it matters, but on the chance that there was a tallying system in place that counted for each check mark a selection got I thought I'd let you know that "The Infidelity Project" is listed twice in Best WIP ;)

Oh, I'll delete one then! :D Thanks for the heads up!

And yes, there is a tallying system in place, to catch the top 5 ;)

ETA: About a week :)

lexie
23rd March 2009, 23:56
And yes, there is a tallying system in place, to catch the top 5 ;)

This tallying isnīt visible to voters, is it?

Julie
24th March 2009, 00:03
This tallying isnīt visible to voters, is it?

Nope. It's only visible to me, in a control panel :)

Julie
24th March 2009, 09:42
Important notice about the Best Short Story voting category!

There were two fanfictions missing from the poll listing on the Best Short Story category, which were:

Shoot Low, They're Riding the Shetlands
In a Place Where People Don't Fly

If you wanted to, or want to now, give your vote to one or both of these, please send me a PM stating which of them you want to give a vote (please include the fanfiction title if you're only giving a vote to one of them :)) and I will manually add the votes into the database :)

If anyone notices any other missing listings, please do let me know ASAP and I will edit them in :)

Big thanks to Kit Merlot for noticing and making me aware of the matter! :)

MelBee1985
26th March 2009, 17:27
Don't forget to vote guys!!! The more we are, the better it is. That'd be nice if at least 100 persons could vote... Based on the fact we are over 300 active (on over 2000 members), it shouldn't be hard...

:D

Just a reminder that in theory the voting ends Sunday night.

lexie
26th March 2009, 17:53
I second Melīs reminder. Remember that, although we writers pen stories first to satisfy our own personal need to tell something, itīs the audience that closes the creative cycle. Let your voice be heard and help the forums stay alive by encouraging your favourite authors to keep on sharing their stories with you.:grin3:

Kit Merlot
28th March 2009, 17:43
I actually went to my LJ and sent pm's to Fiona, Gemkat5, sydsvaughn, TheAmazingApe and Blaire to let them know about the awards and that they had some fics nominated.

I hope that helps the voting process:grin3:

Julie
28th March 2009, 18:22
So far 52 users have cast their vote :)

MelBee1985
28th March 2009, 18:32
Only!!!! :eek:

In the past 24 hours, 200 members logged on... 200!!!! It would be apreaciated if they could vote!!!

lexie
28th March 2009, 18:50
Only!!!! :eek:

In the past 24 hours, 200 members logged on... 200!!!! It would be apreaciated if they could vote!!!


I agree, Mel. However, itīs to be expected that the ones whoīll cast a vote will be the very same people that always leave feedback on our stories. Out of the 200, Iīm sure that as many as 150 are notably lurkers. Iīm not trying to offend anyone here, but you just have to have a look at the people who visit your threads and come back every week to go on reading but never leave a comment. This doesnīt happen on NS only, itīs annoyingly common on most forums, blogs and video hosting sites Iīm afraid.

Perhaps there might be more voters now than when the nominations were made because they now have to just tick a few boxes and press send- a much simpler and faster procedure:grin3:.

ChloeLovesLex
28th March 2009, 19:04
I hope I don't upset anyone or hurt feelings, but honestly unless you are on this site regularly and *know* what it looks like...it isn't EASY to vote. Or maybe I'm just blonder than my red hair shows - LOL!

The only link I know of to get to the voting area is the teeny tiny one in just words at the top below the banner. If you click the banner you get this thread. I found it very hard to navigate until I took the time to REALLY look for a link in.

Perhaps making the banner at the top clickable to the voting area instead of this thread would help??

Or maybe larger font and a note that says "To vote click here" or something like that.

I can honestly say if I was a lurker who didn't post often that I wouldn't bother seeking it out as I did. It should be a bit easier to find and more clearly marked. I personally wanted to vote as a fan, but some people just don't want to take the time to have to search around to do it if it isn't easily accessible.

Also, logging in when you get to the site. The only way *I* could find that I was able to log in and even see that the polls were up and to vote was to click to see who the nominees were on the left. Then pretend I was going to nominate someone again. Then suddenly the poll link shows up in the list off to the left. It stays hidden if you can't even figure out a way to log in (which I couldn't outside of the roundabout one I found).

So again, not easy to navigate.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE no one be upset with me for saying any of this. I'm just trying to help. There may be bigger links I'm missing to get to the voting site and voting area, but these were the challenges I faced as a busy mom of two running around. If it was any other site...I would have become frustrated and adapted a "f*ck it" attitude.

If it's because I'm having a blonde meltdown please ignore me and laugh behind my back ;) :rofl:

ETA: I routed around some more on the voting site and JUST discovered the log-in link at the bottom. I gotta be honest. I'd never seen it as I never scrolled through the news page to the bottom to find it....not to mention I had already read all of the news threads so there was no need.

Can it be moved to the upper portion of the page for better visibility????

Julie
29th March 2009, 15:52
CLL, thanks for your thoughts, I've made some changes to the site and the information under the banner :) I hope the information is a bit more visible now :)

PS! Voting ends tonight at 11pm GMT+1 (Oslo, Norway) time! Check out what time it is in Norway now here: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=187

Julie
29th March 2009, 23:31
Voting has now ended, and I'm working on moving the top 5 nominees to the second round :)

MelBee1985
29th March 2009, 23:33
Awesome! :D

Can't wait to see...

lexie
29th March 2009, 23:57
Thanks for the update, Julie. :grin3:

Julie
30th March 2009, 18:46
A link to the list of the top final 5 finalists can be found somewhere on this site ;) In a proper place, not a random one... Yes, I'm evil...

I'll add the link to the menu of the FFA site later tonight, and hopefully I'll open the final voting later tonight, perhaps early tomorrow morning (my time) as well :)

MelBee1985
30th March 2009, 18:50
Argh you're killing me woman! lol

Now for the next 10 minutes, while waiting for the bus, it's going to be my goal...

ChloeLovesLex
30th March 2009, 19:11
Bah! I've looked and looked. I give. I'm now going to sit on my hands and wait for the announcement.

westwingwolf
30th March 2009, 19:21
I found it! Julie is sneaky...now what can I get in exchange for this information?

Julie
30th March 2009, 19:54
Bah! I've looked and looked. I give. I'm now going to sit on my hands and wait for the announcement.

Haha, apparently, you can now bribe www into telling you!


I found it! Julie is sneaky...now what can I get in exchange for this information?

Nicely done! Was it too hard? lol. It probably is...

westwingwolf
30th March 2009, 19:57
Nicely done! Was it too hard? lol. It probably is...

It might have been made easier for me due to the fact that I joined a certain something a few weeks ago and could easily see when posts were made to it.

Julie
30th March 2009, 19:58
It might have been made easier for me due to the fact that I joined a certain something a few weeks ago and could easily see when posts were made to it.

Yup, probably. Well, that's what you get for NOT joining that certain something :D lol! It won't be long now though, until I add it to the site menu :)

Julie
30th March 2009, 20:26
*bump*

The list of the final 5 finalists has now been announced (http://network.naughty-seduction.net/ffa09/index.php?handle=allnominees-r2)! :) The voting will open either later tonight, or tomorrow morning some time :)

Some categories have more than 5 because there was a tie.

What do you guys think of the final list? Any surprises?

ChloeLovesLex
30th March 2009, 22:15
I honestly think all of the nominee's were worthy and I'm sad to see some not make it to the final round, but I hope that by just being listed that they know we think they do a phenomenal job.

I feel bad though. It wasn't until browsing some posts last night that I realized I missed out on nominating a few others that certainly deserved it. I hope it doesn't discourage any of them because their stories rock!

MelBee1985
30th March 2009, 22:17
I honestly think all of the nominee's were worthy and I'm sad to see some not make it to the final round, but I hope that by just being listed that they know we think they do a phenomenal job.

I feel bad though. It wasn't until browsing some posts last night that I realized I missed out on nominating a few others that certainly deserved it. I hope it doesn't discourage any of them because their stories rock!

You're adorable :p

There are s many good authors and good fics... Sadly only few can win... For this year at least. There is always next year :p

lexie
30th March 2009, 22:51
Congrats to all finalists and good luck on the final round.:blinkkiss

A question, in the category "Best New Author" there are just four names. Does that mean none of the others nominated were voted for the finals?

westwingwolf
30th March 2009, 23:27
A question, in the category "Best New Author" there are just four names. Does that mean none of the others nominated were voted for the finals?

I believe there were only 4 to begin with so they automatically went on to the next round.

Julie
30th March 2009, 23:33
A question, in the category "Best New Author" there are just four names. Does that mean none of the others nominated were voted for the finals?


I believe there were only 4 to begin with so they automatically went on to the next round.

What westwingwolf said is correct :) There were only 4, so they went straight to round 2! :)

In other news:

The voting has now opened (http://network.naughty-seduction.net/ffa09/index.php?handle=polls-round2)!

:) Make your vote count guys!

You can only choose ONE in each category, as we are now voting for the FINAL WINNER!

* You have to login before you will be able to see and access the link!

lexie
31st March 2009, 00:06
Done. Now Iīll have to wait for the final countdown to find out if my favourites get picked.

Good luck!:grin3:

Zannie
31st March 2009, 00:36
Julie, I just voted in the second round, and I think there were only four stories listed under the "Best Characterization of Lex" category. I noticed it as strange, and when I went to check the finalists, I see there should have been five. I think it was "What You Don't Know..." that was left off. Can you check to see if that's the case or if I just imagined it?

MelBee1985
31st March 2009, 00:46
Julie, I just voted in the second round, and I think there were only four stories listed under the "Best Characterization of Lex" category. I noticed it as strange, and when I went to check the finalists, I see there should have been five. I think it was "What You Don't Know..." that was left off. Can you check to see if that's the case or if I just imagined it?

Aiike!!!!

I already voted so I can't go back to see and sadly, even though I have access to the Admin site, I don't have access to the poll, so I can't stop it or correct it... Shit!

Can anyone confirm Zannie's statment?

Julie's already in bed so she may see this in like 6-7 hours ::/:

I dunno if it will have an impact but:

She may have to restart the voting, because that would suck that this fic doesn't win because of that. ::/:

ETA: It has been corrected!!

Zannie
31st March 2009, 00:49
Yes, I would hate for one to be left off. I can't guarantee it was left off the poll, but I think only four were listed (I noticed because only one wasn't mine, and I think that one was Collaborator). Maybe someone who hasn't yet voted can go in and see if that story was actually left off the poll. Hopefully, I haven't caused a stir for nothing.

MelBee1985
31st March 2009, 00:52
Maybe someone who hasn't yet voted can go in and see if that story was actually left off the poll. Hopefully, I haven't caused a stir for nothing.

Better safe than sorry :D

ChloeLovesLex
31st March 2009, 01:12
Yeah, it looks like it was left off....

I just looked and the options are:

Best Characterization of Lex
Collaborator
In Experience
Irrevocable
Praying for Rain

Zannie
31st March 2009, 01:18
Yeah, it looks like it was left off....

I just looked and the options are:

Best Characterization of Lex
Collaborator
In Experience
Irrevocable
Praying for Rain

Yes, I just got my sister to check and she confirmed the same thing. Just four listed for that category.

Julie
31st March 2009, 06:49
Julie, I just voted in the second round, and I think there were only four stories listed under the "Best Characterization of Lex" category. I noticed it as strange, and when I went to check the finalists, I see there should have been five. I think it was "What You Don't Know..." that was left off. Can you check to see if that's the case or if I just imagined it?

Zannie, you're right. "What You Don't Know..." was missing.

I could explain you the technical stuff as for why that happened, but I think I'll bore you guys :D

I've closed the voting for the time being, and will go through all the polls to make sure every entry which should be there is there :)

So! I can EITHER, delete the votes that have already been cast, give everyone a new chance to vote, OR, we can do the whole PM thing where you PM me letting me know you wanted to give your vote to "What You Don't Know..." and which fic you already voted for.

15 or so of you have already cast your votes.... Most of you regulars... It's up to you! :)

I'll check the polls and stuff when I get to work! Sorry you guys! :/

lexie
31st March 2009, 08:01
I think a PM would be faster.:grin3:

Julie
31st March 2009, 09:40
Just a small update: I won't be able to look over the polls for a couple of more hours as I'm at work, and... Well, have to work! :D I'll try and look over it during lunch break! :)

Julie
31st March 2009, 13:35
*bump*

Update: I've gone through the list now, looks like there was only one missing.

To those who have already voted per March 31st, 1:30pm, PM me IF they want to alter their vote and give their vote to "What You Don't Know...". Let me know also which one you already voted for :) This will keep everything more fair :)

Julie
6th April 2009, 17:55
Just a quick update on the final voting polls, I'm keeping them open for a while more as I haven't had a chance to send out a reminder PM about it yet.

I also see that not all of you who participated in the first round, have voted in this second round. This is THE round to vote in guys ;) So if you haven't already, be sure to cast your vote today (http://network.naughty-seduction.net/ffa09/index.php)!

MelBee1985
6th April 2009, 19:25
Yes people! Vote!!!!!

It's a nice event and it would suck that there aren't any other because people don't participate.

Go vote!!!!!

Julie
8th April 2009, 14:27
The final voting round ends on April 12th at midday Oslo, Norway time (GMT+1). Be sure to cast your vote (http://network.naughty-seduction.net/ffa09/) if you haven't already in the FINAL round before that time!

Julie
12th April 2009, 12:58
The voting is now closed.

65 users voted in the first round and 79 in the second round.

Stay tuned for the announcement on the winners! ;)

Julie
12th April 2009, 20:27
Winner List


Congratulations to all the winners! :)

A complete listing on the scores can be found at the Fanfiction Awards 2009 website (http://network.naughty-seduction.net/ffa09/index.php?handle=nom-round2_pollReportAll).

An "I Won" banner can be found in the attachments below for you to download and put in your own signatures.

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Best Adventure/Suspense
Tie between Ends and Means and Irrevocable.

Best Alternative Universe
Sanguis quid Ligurat

Best Angst
Irrevocable

Best Canon
Deep in the Bottle

Best Characterization Of An Original Character.
Corinne in Time Warp

Best Characterization of Chloe
What You Dont Know...

Best Characterization of Lex
Collaborator

Best Characterization Of Non-Chlex SV Character.
Bruce (Batman) in Ends and Means

Best Erotica/NC-17
In Experience

Best Humor
Buyouts, Hostile Takeovers, and Matchmaking

Best New Author
Cypanache

Best Romance
Nameless

Best Short Story
Tie betweenSugar Burns Blue and Three Times that He Touched Her

Best Veteran Author
Zannie

Best WIP
The Depths We Sink To

Avalanche
12th April 2009, 20:29
Congrats to everyone who won! And awesome on everyone who voted!

(Julie, I was so totally two shakes from leaving you a wailing message on your public board:D)

Julie
12th April 2009, 20:34
(Julie, I was so totally two shakes from leaving you a wailing message on your public board:D)

Haha! Well, I *was* working on getting the lists up ;)

MelBee1985
12th April 2009, 20:40
Congrats to all!

I seeo n the website that some lost by like.. 1 point... Well... Personally, I'll have to start reading everything I haven't read so far in the top 5s....

:) Another award.. Another award.. Let's not wait 4 year :p

Avalanche
12th April 2009, 20:41
haha! yeah, I know...I was just being needlessly impatient:D

lexie
12th April 2009, 20:56
Congratulations to all the winners and each and everyone that got nominated and/or help to make this event possible.

Only my fav veteran and two of the best characterisations I voted in the final round won (several of the winners I voted before), but it was fun just the same. Let there be another Fanfic Awards event next year.:blinkkiss

ETA: My favourite Adventure fic won too!!!

Kit Merlot
12th April 2009, 21:03
Yes, CONGRATULATIONS to all of the winners, nominees, everyone who helped with the awards and to Julie!!

Well done:D

westwingwolf
12th April 2009, 21:25
Congrats to everyone, that was totally awesome and fun!

superag
12th April 2009, 21:40
Congrats to all the winners! I love all the ones that won and hope to see all those WIP's nominated in other categories next year! Spoils to the victors!

lexie
12th April 2009, 22:01
Oh, Iīve made a mistake! My favourite Adventure fic won, too!:grin3: And, yes, I happened to vote most of the winners before the final round so Iīm happy they got a prize.

ChloeLovesLex
13th April 2009, 01:55
Congratulations Winners!!!!

malugargula
13th April 2009, 04:37
Congrats to all of the winners, nominees and to Julie!!
:)

kimmie
13th April 2009, 13:31
Congrats to all the winners!!!

Kimmie

daria_103
13th April 2009, 16:52
Congratulations to all the winners, nominees and especially Julie for setting it all up!

letia84
13th April 2009, 17:19
Congratulation winners!

StarsFall88
13th April 2009, 18:19
Congratulations to all!!!

JennyD13
20th April 2009, 20:16
Congratulations to all winners on well deserved wins!:hug: